Carson Peck Memorial Hospital. Flaming Exploration

October 16th, 2001 by

October 2001. Another beautiful autumn day, suddenly turned to chaos. The sun once again unnaturally blotted from the sky, with the smell of smoke accompanying the darkness surely enough to raise a growing fear in even those who hadn't witnessed the events in Lower Manhattan just over a month ago with their own eyes. That fear grows exponentially and instantaneously as the sirens that were just seconds ago an ignorable part of the fabric of city life become incredibly loud and extremely close. “Is this really happening again?” you ask yourself half expecting to wake up. Nope, there’s no sleepy pillows and cozy bed here. The seemingly improbably has just become a heavy dose of the real, and you’ve just unwittingly cheated the dark hooded reaper one more time.

But before we get to all that, Selector - rewind that track and bring us all the way back.

The Carson Peck Hospital was built in 1918 and opened in 1919. Founded by his widow, Mr Peck was an executive with the Woolworth chain of 'five and dime' stores (a forerunner to today’s modern drug store chains). Carson was also the owner of The Brooklyn Daily Times newspaper, and President of the Wiscasset, Waterville & Farmington Railroad located in Maine (amazingly, part of this railway is in use again as a museum - the website has some info on how this came about) Born in upstate New York, he died at the age of 57, in 1915, having fallen ill to the then untreatable Diabetus. There's a lot out there about Carson Peck's life. This interesting account compares him significantly more favorably than the apparently stingy Mr. Woolworth.

Enough about Mr. Peck - you've got the name and the leads, google away. You're here for the building, and sadly there's not a whole lot on the internet about the decades that this facility was open. A delivery man who used to bring oxygen to the hospital provides this insight:

I worked in Brooklyn in the late seventies delivering oxygen for the Holmes medical company and Carson Peck Hospital was on my route. The place was scary and looked like something from a slasher movie series back then. The lobby had wonderful stained glass and marble everywhere. We accessed the building from the loading dock and rolled the 200 lb. oxygen tanks into an old fashioned freight elevator with a gate you closed and a power handle to make the thing ascend. The wards were filled with REALLY REALLY old people back then all dressed in white (it was a nursing home then). The nurses still wore starched white uniforms and it really seemed like a forgotten planet in the middle of Brooklyn. I will tell you the grounds were beautiful with real oak and elm trees on the property. The Hospital building was in the middle of the property on a small hill, all brick and granite.

The hospital was shut down in the late 1990s and complaints soon came in to government officials with regard to the building having been left abandoned and accessible. Numerous complaints and attempts to contact the owners over the years seemed to be a failure. The building quickly fell prey to kids with rocks, scrappers and vandals. It was finally put out of its new found misery when it was demolished in 2003. Today, much of the property is now a new apartment building, filled with tiny apartments and jam packed with Hasidic jews.

Adventure: That Day, Round Two.
September 11th 2011 started as a routine work day in my life, and ended as a defining moment spent in the middle of a war zone. By the time October 16th rolled around, life was returning to some form of normal. It started as any weekend day might, and it too turned into something else entirely.

For much of the summer myself and ‘M’ had been exploring nearly non stop, occasionally on our own but usually within the core team of 4 at the time. Of our former soviet bloc friends, Vlad and Marcin, only Vlad was slated to maybe join us today. Marcin had something else going on. We had been planning on checking out an abandoned hospital in Brooklyn since just before that fateful September day, and this day, just over a month later, would finally see us embark on the mission.

Located in Crown Heights, the former Carson Peck Hospital was an unknown car wreck. All we knew is that it existed and may very well be a succulent flavour of hospital abandonment. Like nearly every other relic of NYC's history we had been to at the time, no one we knew of had known of its existence - much less explored it. “UE” wasn’t a widely defined hobby on the increasingly popular internet just yet, and the only other ‘explorers’ in town didn’t actually live up to the title. It was up to us unlock this building’s secrets – just the way we liked it.

Myself and M. Met up at a nearby subway stop and waited around for awhile Vlad had yet to arrive.. After waiting about 40 minutes, we decided he was going to be a no show and carried on our way. Cell phones weren't common at the time, so it was either be punctual or catch up later. If it was a good exploring spot we’d probably be going back again anyway.

In the short walk from the subway to the street the hospital was located on, we seemed completely out of place. Here lay a deeply socially divided neighborhood. The residents of the time (and even today today) were either Hasidic jews or blacks, and just 10 years prior were rioting against each other. It was 3 days before the NYPD brought things under control.

The hospital stood on top of a small hill - above the street and hidden behind trees. The elegant arched driveway leading to the front door immediately told of the building's former glory, while the trash piles and weeds signaled a lawless area. We approached the side entrance, and were slightly surprised to find no existing access here. Circling around back seemed like a maze of trash and debris, so instead we went back around front to scout it out some more before locating a suitable climb up and in spot (second floor windows were open).

Our scouting didn’t last long. Just to the left of the main entrance stood a bold basement level point of access. With the sun beaming down and general quietness in the air, there seemed to be no reason not to step right in - through the blown out window, onto the table and cinderblocks which formed a very easy set of steps into the basement room. This elaborate access suggested people had been coming in and out of this building for some time - a suspicion that was soon confirmed when a gentile older man appeared out of the pitch blackness of the basement to say hello and immediately make his way outside. His reaction to us was that of one accustomed to meeting strangers here.

As we looked around the basement I grew only slightly unsettled. Was that man living down here somewhere? How many others could be living in this building? With our crew not exactly rolling deep today, and us being very unarmed and carrying cameras that to a drug addict would appear as crack rocks the size of beach balls, there was good reason to pause. Is this a good idea?

The growing suspicions soon became more and more real. A steady stream of people begin to emerge from the dark. Some are surprised to see white people, and seem to assume immediately that we're police. We play that to our advantage somewhat, while giving each other the knowing look that maybe we need to come back here with reinforcements. The decision to pull out and re-evaluation this situation didn’t even need to be spoken after a slightly hostile sounding woman departing with a group of men warned us to be careful of her dog towards the top floor.

We regroup outside, not content to depart just yet. It’s a beautiful day, perfect for getting interior and exterior photos of this building. It’s still mostly quiet out, except maybe those sirens in the far distance. This is a big building, and no one outside of the one lady seemed particularly offended by our presence. The kindly old grandfatherly man who we originally encountered has reappeared outside. He approaches us and soon we’re talking about the building. Indeed, he and many others are living inside. He starts pointing out the corner stone, engraved with the date the building was constructed, along with survey markings on the driveway, left by a demolition crew recently as they prepared a plan to presumably take this building down. He starts telling us a bit about himself, and it’s plain to see this 60 something older man had nothing better to do but to give us a both a tour of the building and serve as a shield against the residents assuming we were there for any reasons that might negatively impact their rent-free den of disorder.

Just then though, breaking the relatively quiet setting the shouts from inside. “Get Out! Get Out!” As we look upward to locate where the shouts were coming from (seemed to be the second or third floor), it dawns on me that it’s a little darker out than it was mere moments ago. Looking further and further up, the source of the hurried warning yells becomes immediately apparent, and the moment had finally arrived: The fucking building is on fire.

We step backwards into each other, both looking upward in momentary amazement. Our new grandfatherly friend? He looks down at his can of King Cobra and offers ‘I should get rid of this’ – dropping it and disappearing into the brush. Those sirens in the distance? Suddenly they’re very, very loud. At one end of the driveway is an alarmed, growing group of Hasidic Jews. At the other is the first due FDNY truck, E234. Before we know it they’ve left the street and have driven directly up the driveway. We step back a bit further as they stop directly in front of us.

Squatters are pouring from the basement. E234 unloads its crew and speeds off towards the other end of the driveway, dropping 2 hose lines from the rear as it proceeds. One of the firemen asks if there are still people in there. We believe so. Oh and maybe dogs too. Be careful – as if that even needs to be mentioned.

Whatever sense of time I had ended – though a fair assessment would be that within less than a minute, a large contingent of firemen amassed where we were standing. The street was full of trucks from the first alarm response, with the sounds of still more sirens filling the distant air - second alarm already transmitted. The group in front of us has brought 2 ladders, being placed against the walls to access one of those second floor windows we were spying as potential access points. Below, the one man bashing open the ciderblock walled main entrance proves the well known point that a Halygon is a hell of a tool. He’s soon joined by others picking and clearing the entrance. A bit further back is still another group, calmly waiting around for access to be established. Watching this destructive dance performance unfold in front of us with no raised voices and not a shred of panic was suddenly soothing. The contrast to the frenzied air just over a month ago, where so many firemen had met such a tragic end, is beyond obvious. That was a war zone. This is a mere skirmish, an easily winnable, routine battle in a solid old building that has seen the worst of times and remained strong of structure and even eloquent of design.

With the firemen making their way in, we’re soon making our way out of the driveway. A senior officer politely asks us, and the two small Hasidim kids who joined us with their radio scanner (debating what channel to listen in on), to make our way off the property so as not to encourage a crowd so close. As we walk he asks if we knew of anyone inside. As if on cue we here a dog bark coming from an upper floor. Guess that lady wasn’t lying. On the street still more firemen are maneuvering two of their larger ladder trucks from the single lane street into the narrow path up to the front of the building. Within minutes ambulance crews are at either end of the driveway – waiting to transport the unlucky. Today, they receive no customers. The squatters are nowhere to be found, nor are the police – which is another fortunate turn of events. Luck has definitely been a lady once again.

The entire mission, from us entering the property to getting inside and then learning of the fire, was perhaps 30 minutes, tops. Yet it would be hours and days before the reality of another bullet dodged settled firmly into place. If Vlad had arrived, those 40 minutes spent waiting would have translated into 40 minutes deeper into the building. We most certainly would have been further upstairs, and luck may not have been the lady she was. The building was on fire while we were inside, and we had absolutely no idea. In my brain, if 9/11 wasn’t a clear indication that anything could happen at any time, this certainly was the icing on that cake. Life in general, and exploring in particular, is a dangerous business. There’s no way of knowing what is coming next. All you really have is this moment. Right now.

What will you do with yours?

2 responses to “Carson Peck Memorial Hospital. Flaming Exploration”

  1. Debra summerford says:

    I have a silver soldered coffee pot. That is stamped. Carson peck memorial hospital 8 oz
    Patent 1637853
    Would love to know more about it if you could help me please. Thanks so much

  2. Bad Guy Joe says:

    wow – that sounds awesome and potentially rare. Carson Peck was a hospital in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. Have you looked up the patent number? I came up with this on a quick search:

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