1)How do I join?
The nature of this hobby is that you really don’t want to do it with
complete strangers. We don’t know anything about you, and you only kinda
sorta know us from this site. How do we cure this?
First off, since we know nothing about you, we ask you to do two things:
1: Sign up for this board
2: Email us at bored (at) ltvsquad.com for ‘the form’, and tell us what name you used to sign up on the board. This is very important, because if you don’t, you won’t get access, and you’ll be talking to the hand. Hello, hand.
The form is information that will never be shared beyond us. We have no
interest in your personal info. We don’t want your address, credit card, etc. We just want to know who the hell you are so we can decide whether or not to kill you… I mean, let you in. Of course.
The forum sign up is really just a good way to get acquainted with other
explorers in NYC. All the serious explorers in NYC that matter are
members, and anyone that isn’t is a loser in life, so it’s a good way to get
acquainted with quality people.
We emphasize quality over quantity. If you want 3 dozen ‘ue’ friends who
will stab you in the back eventually, please go join some other web board.
if you want to seriously get to know some great people, we may be what
you’re looking for.
This comes over time, of course. If you fit, you fit. if you don’t, you
don’t. No one will tell you. It’s up to you to make the effort and figure
it out. Stick around long enough though and you’ll see more trust, more
information, and greater rewards in all your life pursuits.
There’s no dues, no solicitation for donations, nothing like that. It’s
200% free to anyone that brings their A game. Honesty, openness and
respectfulness rule the day.
2) But what if I’m ‘pre qualified’?
To be pre qualified, you need a verifiable rep. You have to already be
known to us or easily researched. You need a solid rep of knowing when to
shut up, when to speak out, and how to handle yourself on a mission. If
you’re pre qualified, all we’ll need is your name. Very few people fit this
bill mind you…
2.5) I’m Pre qualified and you didn’t email me back, what the fuck?
It means we looked into who you are, what you’ve done, and who you hang out with, and decided you’re not going to fit in. Or maybe we’re just lazy and taking our sweet ass time responding. That happens. A lot.
3) ‘I just want to go to these places you’ve been to – can you give me the
names and addresses of all of these fun places’?
It takes time to find such places. We don’t give that information out to
just anyone. if you’re really interested and have money to burn, yes, we
will give you our assets (information). but it’s going to cost you money. A
lot of money. We’re all well paid outside of ‘exploring’, so you have to
make it worth our while.
If you really want to see these places for the fun of it, you’ll have to
endure the really fun part: finding them on your own.
4) Is exploring a crime?
No. The concept of ‘trespassing’ is nonsense, especially when a location
is clearly abandoned. We’re not looking to sue anyone if someone falls
through a floor, steps on something rusty, etc. We enter these places knowing the risks and won’t cry to anyone if some bad accident happens. That’s life. It’s the chance you take engaging in this hobby.
The fact is, now that the Supreme Court has decided the government has a
right to take anyone’s property at any time for any old fabricated reason
it desires (eminient domain), that we the people – the citizens of this country, really
should feel free to go wherever the hell we want so long as we’re careful
about it and not interfering with society.
5) Is Photography a crime?
No. We already fought that battle and won it.
6) What about 9/11?
Oh you mean the universal excuse to be paranoid of our own shadows? Yeah
we refuse that one too.
As GW Bush famously said after the attack, we should all return to our
normal lives and exercise our freedoms to the fullest.
Before 9/11, No one cared about us taking photos of bridges, subways,
weird abandoned spaces, etc. Anyone paranoid about us doing it now – years
later – is a fucking idiot that should go join the taliban. Let us make this clear: Fuck You. Fear is victory for ‘terrorists’.
7) No really, is exploring ‘legal’?
It’s as ‘legal’ as jaywalking. Technically you can get charged with
‘trespassing’ which in NYS is a violation – usually punishable by a $50 fine or ‘ACD’ – which means stay out of trouble for 6 months and nothing happened. You only get one of these tickets if you’re a dick
towards cops and/or come across one desperate to meet their quota. Hell, if it’s Quota Time and you’re not rocking a PBA card chances are they’re going to throw whatever they need at you – ‘Obstruction of Government’, ‘Disorderly Conduct’, etc. This isn’t a hobby without risks – and this is one of them. The Quota makes the exploring game especially risky in NYC. If an officer needs to make an arrest to make quota, you can and very well might be put through the system even if you’ve done nothing, or very little, wrong. Going ‘through the system’ is usually a 12-24 hour torture session with no contact with the outside world, fingerprinting, being in cells with no working toilets and surrounded by a-holes, more fingerprinting, guards that hate you, and then finally seeing a judge who’ll likely tell you to scram (knowing that you were put there just to make quota – because it happens. All the time).
all, many of us have enjoyed this hobby for decades and have never so much
as run into a cop. Hell, some of us explore with cops. Who cares? It’s a job. Everyone’s got to make their money somehow. Don’t be a dick towards anyone and they probably won’t be a dick to you in return. Exploring in NYC is like smoking weed, just don’t get caught.
8) Why do some people call exploring ‘urban exploring’?
Because they’re stupid. There’s nothing ‘urban’ about exploring mental
hospitals in the woods. These same ‘urban explorers’ would probably get
severely lost if dropped in the middle of Manhattan with no map and a need
to get to Brooklyn. A C E? 4, 5? What are those? Jeez… Just because the
train says ‘Q’ on it doesn’t mean it goes to Queens all the time, you fat bloated
(update – yes, the Q goes to queens now – very sad. I recommend all tourist explorers take the A to far rockaway… you’ll have a great time there).
9) Does LTV prescribe to the ‘take only pictures leave only footprints’
Sometimes. If a place is about to be bulldozed though, and clearly no one
cares about the location, it’s stupid not to take things out of said
location and either reuse them or donate them to historic societies and
We’ve saved numerous awesome artifacts that would have otherwise been sent to the dump, and donated them to perservation groups.
10) What’s all this graffiti stuff? What does that have to do with exploring?
Everything. ‘Exploring’ in NYC evolved directly from graffiti. Back in the
day graffiti artists explored all the time to find abandoned places and
subway tunnel spots in order to paint.
Even today you’ll find a similar situation, and quite often, the graffiti
you’ll find in abandoned buildings consists of some amazing art – livening
up otherwise boring, useless locations.
We appreciate art in all its forms. Anyone that doesn’t appreciate art
probably shouldn’t be exploring in or living near NYC… because this town is full of
amazing stuff everywhere you look.
Go move to Nebraska if you don’t want to see graffiti.
11) How is exploring in NYC different than anywhere else.
We’re the best at what we do. it’s that simple.
As a result of 9/11 paranoia, there are more security cameras, motion
sensors, and suspicious people around than anywhere else on this planet.
There are more members of the NYPD than there are in the entire US Coast
Guard. And if they find you drinking in public or being a dick, you’re in
for some serious shit (‘going through the system’ – aka – being in jail
for at least 24 hours before seeing a judge who might decide to keep
Exploring outside of NYC usually entails dealing with little or no
security, cops who’ll give you a warning at best, and few seriously
dangerous locations. Abandoned buildings can be a hazard, but they are
absolutely nothing compared to subway tunnels with infinite ways to get
killed in them. They are nothing compared to CSO Drains that can fill with
water at a rare of 6 inches per minute (with next to no exists, mind you).
By now you should get the idea: Exploring in NYC isn’t for idiots.
And if you come here for a visit and you get over once, don’t think you’re
hot shit. try getting over 365.
12) is there anywhere undiscovered in NYC?
Everything has been seen before. As soon as a place is abandoned it is
scoped out and investigated. Never think you’ve ‘discovered’ something.
Chances are very high that you have not.
13) Do you list every place you go on the website?
No. We’re too busy going on missions to keep up with that. This site is
meant as a taste of what is out there. Nothing more.
14) Is it Safe?
Not if you’re an idiot. It’s all about brains really. If you’ve got no sense of judgment you should make take up Table Tennis or something.